Jalen Hurts out Sunday due to blood clot in his leg

PFT Live, Friday edition. Michael, I got to tell you a little story here. One of the realities of having this show on Sky Sports in London. Beyond the fact that some of the TV monitors in Piccadilly Circus at the sports bars there have our images on there because my cousin was over there and took the picture last week, which made your in-law's house an international sensation because there was the background. So we've got, for whatever reason, we've got a big following in the UK. And I quit trying to figure it out, and I just accepted it. They like our temperament. They like our disposition. They like the way that we cover the NFL, and they're very passionate about it, and we're very appreciative of them. And I can't wait to make my first visit there. That said, when we have that many people who are watching the show, there are going to be some loyal folks who reach out to us from time to time, and there are going to be some people who find out some things in the course of their normal daily lives. And I made vague reference to this on Wednesday, and then I peeled the curtain back a little bit more yesterday. I'm going to go ahead and disclose what happened. I got an email from a viewer in the UK on Wednesday telling me that, as a friend who works at a hospital. You may want to look into whether or not a certain high-profile player from one of the two teams that was playing here on Sunday may have needed to come to the hospital for a little medical care. Now, I don't want to spark a whole investigation. That's why I'm choosing my words carefully. I don't know what the HIPAA laws are over there, but I know their laws, as it relates to one specific profane word, are a lot looser than ours. I know that. There's one specific word. My son and I were talking about this the other night, how they throw that one word around, like it's a preposition. But I heard enough that I started to pay attention to it. And then Wednesday, I wanted to hear what Jalen Hurts had to say, if anything else, about the sequence at the end of regulation, because he seemed to disagree with the way the Eagles managed the clock. They left the Jaguars too much time. And then he gets asked this question about a calf injury that popped up on Friday. I'm like, well, what calf injury popped up on Friday? And he said, oh, it's a very unique situation, and I really don't want to talk about it. And well, aha, aha. So I asked the Eagles yesterday. I asked the Eagles yesterday. And when I heard back from them, they said, we're going to have something for you in a little bit. And that's what I knew. So there's something to this. So they issued the statement yesterday. And I'll just paraphrase from it. But the bottom line is he got cleated in the calf against the Rams. And he said that Wednesday, got nicked up, got cleated in the calf and practiced fully on Wednesday and Thursday. But it was on Thursday. He went to the training room after practice requesting treatment on the calf. And they recognized that the calf needed treatment. He got treatment on Friday. He was disclosed as fully participating in practice with the calf injury. That's what happens when a guy gets treatment. You got to disclose him. Fully participated, took all of his normal reps, but he's got a calf injury. Then when they get to London, they perform an ultrasound. After they went to London and after they had a walk-through practice, ultrasound revealed a superficial blood clot. The medical staff and doctors in London reviewed the results and concluded that activity and mobility were important and that Jalen could safely play. Doctors recommended a follow-up ultrasound within 72 hours. When they did the follow-up ultrasound, they discovered that the blood clot had moved. That's when they decided that Jalen Hurts would be ruled out for Sunday's game. Now, obviously, it's a health situation. We wish Jalen Hurts all the best, but you've got all sorts. You've got a wide range of actual potential health situations that arise in football all the time. This one is just unusual. I don't know where it ranks in the range of the full risks that players assume, but this is what can happen to a football player. You get cleated in the calf. You could get compartment syndrome, which is an urgent medical condition that could result in amputation if you don't go in there and get it taken care of. And there have been stories about guys who've got kicked in the leg and they wake up in intense pain and pressure in their leg that night, and they got to go straight to the hospital and get that fixed. So there's all sorts of things that can happen, but it's good that they caught it, and it's good that he's being treated. It's not good for the Eagles from a football standpoint that he's not going to play, but it still is unusual, to say the least. And I still have questions about how this whole thing was handled from the standpoint of the transparency that we're supposed to have when it comes to the injury status of players. Yeah, it's really an incredible situation. It's remarkable, really, when you think about the sequence of events with Jalen Hurts. And before I get to that, I'll just say also, and not to... Look, I'm always gonna root for journalism and information. I love it. It's all I've wanted to do my entire life, is to be a journalist and a communicator. So, I'm biased. But I always, it always amuses me when teams try to kind of shut people down, or organizations, governments try to shut people down. Like, I'm not gonna give you that information. There are so many ways to get information. There are so many potential sources out there. Some that you can think of, some are obvious, some are not. They're everywhere. So, I love it, Mike. I love that somebody kind of tipped you off that this is going on. It's just another reminder that there really are very few secrets when you're talking about something as popular as the NFL. So, that's one. The other thing is, I'm not sure I followed the Eagles statement on just their explanation with Jalen Hurts. I'm going to go back to the first part. So, did Jalen Hurts know that he had a blood clot before a game and he decided to play the game anyway? I know all of them are, their clotting happens. I know it's not all the same. It's not all a dire, life-threatening situation. I understand that. I just wondered, did he know, hey, was it described to him that way and he played the game anyway? That's very curious to me. I guess I would, and they're not going to tell us. I just like a little bit more clarity on this entire timeline, how we got to this point where we hear yesterday, confirmed yesterday, Jalen Hurts out for the next game and we don't know when he'll play again. That's a little strange. And they also said that they were in contact with the league throughout this whole process. I've asked the league why there wasn't, and look again, let me just be clear on this, because apparently there are some folks out there on social media who took exception to the fact that Chris and I were making the case on behalf of people who wager their hard earned money, that they are kept in the dark, that there is inside information out there, that it isn't available in full and fairly transparent ways to the people who are expected to plunk down their money. And we didn't know we had a blood clot at the time we said it, but I still believe what we said yesterday. And there are ways to be concerned about Jalen Hurts from a health standpoint and make the point that these injuries are hidden, that the information isn't shared with the individuals who are out there deciding on the menu of many different wagers, where they're going to put their hard-earned money that they are likely to lose sooner or later. But you would think when you read that statement, at some point over the weekend, aren't you going to downgrade Jalen Hurts to questionable? Isn't there a point during the weekend when you have to go to the hospital to get an ultrasound and you discover the very innocuous sounding superficial blood clot? Oh, it's just a superficial. It's just tis but a flesh wound. It sounds very, very simple and treatable. Not to me. No big deal. But first of all, if you have to detect it with an ultrasound, it's not superficial in the classic sense. Yes. Because it's not on your skin. It's somewhere inside your body that requires the use of specific technologies to detect its presence. And superficial blood clot, I did a little research here. It's also known, it's specifically known as superficial thrombophlebitis. It is a blood clot that occurs in veins under the skin, in the superficial veins, but it's still under your skin. The condition typically happens in the arms or legs and causes inflammation, pain, redness and swelling. Health care providers treat the pain and swelling with non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, but it is a serious condition because it can move. If I'm not mistaken, Mike, I think your guy, your favorite NBA player, Wimby, had the same thing. Maybe if it wasn't last year, it was the year before, but I think it was the same. Wimby had the same thing, and he had to stop playing. Now, it's not football. The NBA is not the NFL, but he was out for a little bit, I think, with a similar condition. Well, and it is serious because once they start to move, that's where you can end up with something that passes through your heart, ends up in your lung, becomes a pulmonary embolism, and things can take a turn very, very quickly. I vividly recall the story of former NBC News reporter David Bloom, died of a blood clot in his lung. And I don't know whether it was from being on a plane, or he was covering the war in Iraq. So it can happen quickly, and it is a serious health condition. But when someone develops a serious health condition, you would think there would be a flag that flies a little higher, and that carries a more alarming color that would let people know, because of this industry that pro football is, where there's transparency about any and all health conditions that a player has. There's full transparency and it's been in place for years. It dates back to the days when the mob infiltrated pro football. I'm reading the book that was written by Dan Moldea 37 years ago. It's astounding the ties between owners and the mob back in the 30s, 40s and 50s. And the injury report was created by Burt Bell, one of the NFL's early commissioners, to try to balance it out for the consumer. Even though it was illegal in all states except Nevada, they wanted to balance out the information. And from the perspective of the consumer, and we are very, very pro consumer when it comes to this gambling interest because nobody seems to be, the whole vibe is just, let's just grab their money. Yeah. What are you talking about? Pro consumer, that's how we make our money. Do you not understand how we make our money? We take their money. Why do you want to help them? We're taking their money and we're paying you money to help us take their money. So why do you want to help them? So it was just weird yesterday, there were people that were upset because Chris and I were making the case for the people who are out there, and they don't have the information they should have. This is a prime example of how extreme it can be. Because when you look at the injury report, okay, fully participated in practice on Friday because of his calf. Never heard anything else, he went out and played the game, everything's fine. Now we find out anything is not fine. It was the farthest thing from fine and they scrambled to get it under control and get him in a position where he could play without it being a bigger issue than it already is. Yeah, you're right. There's a lot going on with the Philadelphia Eagles. That situation, and I'll just say quickly, what a season, what a 2026 season for Philadelphia. If you look at it, AJ Brown out, Nick Sirianni under fire, Saquon Barkley injured, Jalen Hurts out, the retirement, the trade. It feels like an unintentional transitional season for the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know where they're going to wind up, but it just very, very different vibes in Philly right now. And Tanner McKee gets his first meaningful start. He started some late season games. It didn't matter in the standings, but now they get a chance to evaluate him, to the extent that they have to make a decision about Jalen Hurts at some point. We'll see how that goes. And they could use another quarterback, but they've got a roster spot devoted to Lane Johnson, who's retired, and they need to carry him on the roster until June 2 of 2027, at which point putting him on the reserve retired list will prevent a massive cap charge in 2027. So, their roster is at 52. They can't have a 53 man roster because they have to have Lane Johnson on the roster all year long and in the June of next year, so that they can manage the cap consequences of his unexpected retirement. That's how bad it is right now. It is a state of flux, it is a state of transition, it is a state of turmoil in Philadelphia, and it's only gotten worse. And they've got, after coming back from England, they have a team that was off last week in Carolina Panthers, that's happened four times before, where a team comes back from an overseas game, they play a team that's coming off a buy, and the team that just played is 0-4. Shocking. That's just not right. We need to take a break. Yeah, that's not right. The league has to fix that, that is wrong. There are so many of those little glitches like that and good luck. Good luck. And I know they're playing the music and we got to go, but there's so many moving parts in the schedule making process. I think it's impossible to address everything, but that is one that needs to be addressed. All right, we need to take a break. When we return, how is Jayden Daniels moving on from the clock debacle? It still hovers over the commanders and their star quarterback. That's next on PFT Live. You know, you got to learn from it and move forward and not dwell on it or let it affect you. Obviously, as a competitor, as a person, you feel like you let everybody around you down. But, you know, I have a great team and, you know, people in the locker room, you know, they have my back and, you know, uplifting me in those moments. And ultimately, you know, I'm the one that had to take ownership of it and move forward from it. That's Jayden Daniels meeting with reporters for the first time since Sunday when he met with them in the immediate aftermath of the clock debacle that turned a potential victory into a tie because with 55 seconds left and a first down in field goal territory, somehow, some way, the commanders were unable to save enough time to kick a field goal. And Michael, we haven't had a chance to talk about this. We haven't talked about it off air. I'm curious as to your thoughts and specifically as it relates to the effort to decide who's to blame because when everyone says, I am Spartacus, it's impossible to figure out who is actually Spartacus. And in this case, everyone has taken the blame, which makes it impossible to put the finger properly in the direction of anyone who did it. I put most of the blame on the quarterback. Most of it, and I say most of it because you're the leader of the team, you're the coach on the field, and we'll come back to that in a second. You are supposed to have an internal clock, you're supposed to have a better understanding of what's going on, clock, situation than all of your teammates. So most of the blame on Jayden Daniels is just situational awareness, and you want your quarterback to have it. But I get the sense that this is where I come to the coaching staff. What are you doing? If you see it unfolding that way, your whole team, it wasn't just Jayden Daniels. If you go back and I've watched it many times, if you just watch the replay of how they get up from the previous play, they're all casual. They all are totally oblivious to what's happening until maybe a couple of guys get, okay, wait a minute, we got to hurry here, we got to scramble, but they weren't aware of it. I think your quarterback should understand what's going on there. I'll say this, Mike, corporate communication is funny to me. They don't mean it to be funny, but I think it's hilarious when people say, well, we've all got to be better in that situation, I'll learn from it. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, before you move on, learn from what? Be better, how will you be better going forward? What was it that caused you to make that mistake? We're not going to do it again. Yeah. But yeah, well, we're not going to do it again. How are you going to be better? We're not going to do it again. Do what? So how did you make them say, well, that's on me? Well, what, okay, can you tell us what you were thinking? Did you not understand how many timeouts you had? Did you, was there some miscommunication from the sideline? Can you just tell us what happened? It is so, I just can't believe that that happened to a professional team and a professional quarterback, who we all think is pretty good. I can't believe that happened. I really can't. It's like the bizarre version of it wasn't me. It was me. Okay. Well, what did you do? I did it. But how did it happen? It happened. What are you going to do about it? I'm not going to do it again. And it's a perfect way to avoid full accountability when we never quite know, other than the obvious outcome, right? We have no idea how the outcome happened. I've argued that they should preserve all these communications and the headsets, like the black box in an airplane, so you can go back and figure out who's to blame. I've suggested that maybe folks should shut the hell up about their ongoing criticisms of Carly Ursay Gordon, because if she was on the sidelines during that debacle, she'd have a pretty good idea as to what happened when it's time to apportion the blame. And everybody says it was my fault. I'm sorry. It won't happen again. I still haven't seen anyone from the commanders asked a question that I think should have been asked in the locker room. There were plenty of great questions asked, and I'm not here to suggest that people should think of every question that could be asked when you're in the moment. But I'm disappointed that no one asked Jayden Daniels this yesterday, because I was on radio in DC earlier in the week, and I said, this question needs to be asked. I've written about it. I've said it here. Jalen, did you know that if the clock strikes zero at the end of that overtime period, and the game is still tied, the game ends and it's high? And there is precedent for that. All the way back to Donovan McNabb in 2008, in his 10th year in the NFL, did not know that a game could end and it's high. And multiple players on his team at that time, Michael, did not know that a game could end and it's high. Yeah, that's a good question. And that may be, that may be the truth. You might be right. And we can handle the truth. So, but we're never gonna know the truth, because we're gonna do better. What are you gonna do better? Everything. But what does that mean? We're not gonna do that thing again. And then you just get to a point where you just give up. So trying to teach a dog how to drive a car. You're gonna give up before you ever accomplish the task. Well, depends. It depends on the dog, Mike. It depends on the dog. Some dogs might try. But, you know, Mike, I think this is a... This might be a case of... And I'm not... I'm really not this guy. I'm not a scream at the cloud, get off my lawn, analytics person. I'm not. I understand that it's a part of the game and that most franchises and most professional sports have some type of analytics wing, analytics department. So I understand that. But I think this might be a case of coaching the game, coaching the game so much that you forget about the players. It's, yeah, we're going to do this and this again, this situation, the analytics say when it's third and this, we'll do this or we have this amount of time. You still have to communicate with players and go over situations with players, not just with your analytics department, your coaching assistant, your this and all these layers. I think it's really, there are certain players that come to mind, I'd say they just wouldn't do that. There are certain, I mean, think about the quarterbacks who would never make that mistake. I can think of five, 10 quarterbacks and they're not all hall of famers off the top of my head who would never do that because they're so in tune with the game. And I think what's happening is there's so many people coming into the game that they kind of forget that they want, you want play, I want more players in tune with the game. I don't want a larger coaching staff talking about it. Well, but I also believe, and I know we need to take a break, but I also believe that Jayden Daniels' demeanor and to the extent that it is his fault, it is a symptom of a deeper problem that Dan Quinn has had three years to spot and fix. I don't think that just pops up all of a sudden that there may be a moment where Jayden glitches and Jayden doesn't understand the situation. And we need to work with him to make sure he better understands the small situations, because eventually there's going to be a big situation that he's not going to understand. And we saw a big situation that for whatever reason, and again, I still put it all on Quinn, because he's responsible for everything. And Blau has yet to have to answer for this. I know what he's going to say. Yeah, I did it. And yeah, what are you going to do? I'm just not going to do it again. One last point I want to make. And I thought of this last night, and it's something I've thought of in the past, but I tweeted about it last night, because yet again, we see the referee at the start of overtime with kind of a clunky, awkward explanation. Why is there not a card, right? Like the Miranda rights are on a card. There are certain things that are said all the time the same way, to the point where you don't even need the card. Everybody knows what, right? Remember the disclaimer they used to put on, and I knew it when I was a kid, Pat Summerall reading it all, you know, all retransmission broadcasts, they express written consent of the National Football League. Like I knew the whole thing, right? They don't do that anymore, or I would still know it off by heart. You need to have, and it's not that hard, you need to have a script that tells everyone, here's what we're going to do, here's how it ends, and if the score is tied after 10 minutes, the game ends and it's high. They don't say that, not that it's binding. It was good. They're all over the place. They're all over the place. They just need to have a standard set script that is repeated so often that we all end up memorizing it, and that would help eliminate some of this confusion for the viewers, maybe for the players. If there are players who don't know a game can end in a tie, if they hear before every overtime game they ever experience, if the score is tied at the end of 10 minutes, the game ends in a tie, maybe we won't have that in the future. All right, let's take a break. When we returned, the player picked before Jayden Daniels in the 2014-2024 draft had some interesting words for the media yesterday regarding his hamstring injury from back in week two. That's next on this Friday edition of PFT Live. Do not know before you start asking. Do not know if I'm playing yet. Have to go through a bunch of medical protocols. Obviously have to get out there and practice, do the stress test thing. That obviously you do when you're trying to come back from injury or a serious injury. That's Caleb Williams back at the podium in the traditional spot where the starting quarterback meets with reporters. That alone tells us where this is trending for Sunday's game against the Falcons in Atlanta. Full participant in practice tells us he's out there. And we learned this last year when the Ravens were taking liberties with the injury report. Full participant means or at least should mean you took your normal reps. So if you're QB1, you took the first team reps. And we know how important the first team reps are to being the starter in Ben Johnson's offense. So Michael, look, there's always a chance for a setback, but it's moving in that direction. And I think they're just trying to milk that last drop of secrecy out of the final days of Caleb Williams' absence from playing. Yeah, you're right. If he's not going to play, there's no reason to give an update, especially the way the cagey way he responded. Like, why would he come out? Hey, the media wants to hear from you. Why don't you give him a few words? That wouldn't happen. Clearly, that wouldn't happen. He doesn't want to do that. So the reason he's out there is because he's probably going to play. If, as you said, if he doesn't have a setback, he's going to play and he... In this era, all players, especially players his age, listen to all the commentary and see what's being said. So he's probably got a little bit of an edge from hearing people say, well, wait a minute, why did he respond that way? It was just a hamstring strain. I thought he was out for the season the way he initially responded. So I think he's probably a little bothered by that and the amount of attention that his absence has drawn. So I'm with you, Mike. I'd be really surprised if he's not the quarterback on Sunday. And all that criticism was so, I want to say the word, it was so freaking stupid, not that word, the other one, because he clearly was injured. Yeah. He clearly was injured. Now, early on, they were trying to downplay it. And as of the night that it happened, I was reliably told, not to be confused with my usual unreliable sources, I was reliably told that there was hope that it was a grade one strain. Ultimately, they, the insiders, said it was a grade two strain, and he'd be out three to four weeks. And if so, that fits the timeline. Now, he talked about that yesterday, and he wasn't real thrilled that it got out there about the grade of the strain. Well, welcome to the NFL. That's what happens, because everybody wants to know what's going on. Here he is on why he kept the details of the hamstring injury so secret. It's been fun to deal with in that sense, because there hasn't been a right way of putting it, other than there's nothing that has come out that has been right about what it is and what it has been. And so, that's been fun to deal with. And so, I would say from y'all's side, things like that, is being able to report it and go through it in the right way, right manner, and then from there, if you haven't heard it from, you know, boss man himself or, you know, out of the horse's mouth, me, you know, it would probably be wrong, which every single one has been. Why keep the details of the injury secret? Because it's not deserving. Why? Just not deserving. Next question. You take exception to... It doesn't. It doesn't. It's like it's a... Next question. Thank you. Next question. Yeah, I don't really like that look, and I love Caleb Williams. First of all, the reports weren't... I mean, you can't just say everything was wrong if you're not gonna talk about what it really was. If you're not gonna say what it was, then you can say anything's wrong. But eventually, there was a report from ESPNFL, the new mega corporate conglomerate, where they've forced a bunch of these folks who used to be enemies and rivals to work together. The report... And it is kind of funny. That hasn't been discussed nearly enough, that folks who used to be enemies are now working together and acting like they were never enemies. But anyway, the... I've completely lost my train of thought. The three to four week timeline was provided by ESPNFL at some point. And here it is, three to four weeks, which is consistent with the grade two strain. It's on the low end of the time to be missed. But I mean, he clearly had a hamstring injury. And I don't know why we're acting like it's state secrets. I think some of that Ben Johnson vibe is rubbing off on him. And it's a little bit... Dare I say it's a little Trumpy? Dare I say this whole the media is the enemy thing and we're going to fight with them or we're going to shout them down or we're going to say they're wrong because God forbid, God forbid they say something that creates an impression that we don't like? No, look, they're aligned. There's no question. There's an edge that Ben Johnson has. There's an edge that Caleb Williams has. And it works for them. So I don't have a problem with that. We're on the same page with this. But with him saying that everybody is wrong. No, and everybody's not wrong. What they don't have is, okay, they don't have, quote, they don't have dialogue. And then Caleb said this, and then Ben said this, and the trainer said that. They don't have that. But they have, we're pretty, I think you can say with pretty good accuracy what his injury was, what his challenges were coming back from the injury, and then when he'll play. I mean, it's not like, oh, you all said it was my hamstring, but it was actually my shoulder. No, it was his hamstring. That's how it came off. You think it was my leg. You think it was my right leg. It was my left leg. You got it wrong. What are we doing? In his defense, I'll say it doesn't make sense for any injured player in the NFL, especially to come out and tell you exactly what was wrong with them because it's a brutal league and you're a quarterback. You know what a defender will do? Okay, that's what it is. I'm going to attack it. That's the reality. So don't be too open about your injuries. We got to take a break. But they used to say that before it became frowned upon. We got to test it. We got to test that injured area. All right, let's take a break. Show me something draft for week six up next on this Friday edition of PFT Live. PFT Live Friday edition week six is upon us. We've already played one game, air quotes game, boring game, but went to overtime. Three straight primetime games in overtime. All right, Michael, show me something for week six. You're up. Oh, Mike, I love a good draft. Show me something, Aaron Glenn and the New York Jets. Mike, do you realize the last 20 games, the Jets have played the Patriots. They're two and 18 and that's not all on Aaron Glenn, but this is Aaron Glenn. It's not one a game in the AFC East. They're 0 and 6 in the AFC East. Can you get a win? The Jets have improved this year. They got a win last week against the Browns. Can you show me something against the Patriots who have been an unkind rival for a decade plus? Show me something. And this is directed at the men who were supposed to be the three amigos, but who have become instead the three stooges, Jim Harbaugh, Mike McDaniel and Justin Herbert. Because this is it, guys. This is it. This is your last game before the bye week. You go to Kansas City to take on the 4-0 Chiefs coming out of their bye week. You're 0 and 5. There have only been a small handful of instances when a team 0 and 4 or worse has beaten a team 4 and 0 or better. This is your chance to save someone because someone, I think, of those three, and it ain't going to be Herbert, someone's going to be gone by Monday if they lose this game on Sunday and enter their bye at 0 and 6. And the most likely candidate to go bye-bye is Mike McDaniel. But this is it. This is your chance. This is your last chance to avoid the disaster that is already unfolding. Well, you say in yours, save someone. This one is under the category of saving face. Show me something. Marvin Harrison Jr. He's traded from the Cardinals, some would say rescued from the desert. He winds up in Houston with his college teammate, his college quarterback, CJ Stroud. We know what Marvin Harrison Jr. was supposed to be. He has not looked like that guy. The Texans take on the Jaguars. They're one in four. Show me something, Marvin Harrison Jr. What do you got? Show me something, Todd Monkton. Specifically, show me the knowledge that you have of the personnel and the systems with the Baltimore Ravens, where you had been employed for three years before you became the head coach. This is the opportunity as the new Browns welcome the old Browns back to Cleveland for their annual return. Todd Monkton has a chance to tie the Ravens at the top of the division. What a swing. These division games, we get to this stage of the season, you look at four and one, three and two. So it's either going to be five and one, three and three, or four and two, four and two, and Todd Monkton has the chance to do that. Let's take a quick break. We'll get one more round in before we wrap up this Friday edition of PFT Live. PFT Live, Friday edition. One more round of the Show Me Something Draft. Michael Holley, what do you got? You know, Mike, I'm going to say this. Show me something, Robert Sala. Now, we've talked a lot about John Harbaugh and the windless chargers because that's a surprise. We didn't think the chargers would be this bad. I thought the Titans would be bad. I did not think they'd be windless. Robert Sala, what do you got? I mean, you're making the case that you're not a head coach, that you're just a good defensive coordinator. Win a game. Show me something. Show me something, Kellan Moore. The owner, in a very rare move, has put everyone on notice. She does not want to take her team to Paris next week with a 1-5 record against the Pittsburgh Steelers. It would be nice if the Saints could get their second win of the season. They go to MetLife Stadium. The Giants are 3-1-1. It will not be easy, but Kellan Moore, it is time to dig deep, because if he fails Michael Holley, it will mean for the second straight year, the Saints will have started 1-5 under Kellan Moore, something that had not happened in a very long time for the Saints. That's it for today. Great stuff, Michael. Thank you, everybody else. See you Monday.